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    2008 Average Draft Position and Scarcity Reports

    Feb 9th, 2008 by winabango

    Version 2 has been posted here: 2008 Version 2 w/ scarcity reports

    The day has finally arrived! The 2008 Fantasy Baseball Average Draft Position and Scarcity Reports are now available. This year’s version has 554 players ranked by average draft position data that has been collected from 11 mock drafts. I have also included projections for over 500 players, which I developed from comparing three projection systems (PECOTA, CBS, Bill James).

    The best part is that I am offering this data for FREE! No, that is not a typo. All that I ask is that you tell everyone that you know (except your league mates) about this great resource. Post it on every message board that you know. Write to every site that you go to regularly, and tell them that they should link to it. If you had great success last year because of the information, please post that in the comments section. I have done the work, now I need your help in promotion.

    Without further delay, the ultimate draft tool:

    2008 Average Draft Position Version 1

    2008 ADP and Scarcity Report Instructions

    Remember, you can adjust the Scarcity Reports to your league settings. That is why I have created this as an editable excel spreadsheet.

    Keep in mind that this is version 1. I will doing more drafts over the next month, and will release an updated version in the beginning of March. Now on to mock drafting, and adding more great content here at Fantasy Gameday.

    Posted in Draft Advice, Fantasy Baseball | 30 Comments

    30 Comments to “2008 Average Draft Position and Scarcity Reports”
    1. on 09 Feb 2008 at 4:32 pm#1bryan

      kelly,

      i am indebted to you…again

    2. on 09 Feb 2008 at 5:21 pm#2Derek

      Hey, this is awesome, thanks for the work you have done on both of these things, one question I have for you are your ADP based on expert, or averager person mock drafts?

    3. on 09 Feb 2008 at 5:43 pm#3winabango

      Actually, any draft that I could find. So to answer your question, both kinds. The draft that we did on this site is in there.

    4. on 10 Feb 2008 at 9:14 am#4Titan

      What type of scoring system(s) are used for the included mock draft data? All types? Mostly 5×5 roto? Any HTH points league drafts in there?

      It does give you a good feel for player values (amongst the general population), but people still need to do their homework as it pertains to their own league scoring systems. Points leagues with no negatives for k’s and BA value a guy like Adam Dunn a full round or two more than most roto leagues as an example.

      Thanks for the hard work, it’s a nice compliment to my own data…

    5. on 10 Feb 2008 at 11:33 am#5winabango

      most are standard 5×5 roto, but there are a few H2H ones in there as well. Whatever I could find I put in there.

    6. on 10 Feb 2008 at 12:29 pm#6mkooljr1

      hmmm, not really sure how helpful this is if you combine different league types into one sheet. player values differ immensely depending on league size, roster composition, and scoring system, which is being ignored here. especially if any points leagues are included, since rankings are entirely dependent on the point system, which i’m sure is different for every single league

    7. on 10 Feb 2008 at 1:02 pm#7winabango

      There are no points style mock drafts entered into it. Keep in mind that this is an “average” of where players are selected. These are not rankings, and yes where you take players will change depending on your league scoring. That is why you can adjust the Scarcity Report to match your league settings and personal rankings.

    8. on 10 Feb 2008 at 3:35 pm#8Keeping

      Thanks a lot for this. You clearly put a lot of work into it and its paid off nicely…Thanks again…

    9. on 11 Feb 2008 at 6:57 am#9AJ

      What do the * and ^ signify? Lovely work. Used this report last year, along with some other info. Thanks!

    10. on 11 Feb 2008 at 7:13 am#10winabango

      AJ,
      * - indicates a player with multiple position eligibility in league where 10 games are the minimum to qualify
      ^ - indicates that the player was a top 50 prospect in 2007 or is a top 50 prospect in 2008

    11. on 11 Feb 2008 at 7:31 am#11AJ

      Glorious thanks.

      Saw that in the “instructions” btw. Sorry for that…

    12. on 11 Feb 2008 at 10:01 am#12JG

      Thanks very much - and great work!

    13. on 11 Feb 2008 at 10:29 am#13Jim

      Thanks! I am sending/linking this to everyone I know.

    14. on 11 Feb 2008 at 11:02 am#14Hank

      Just let you know that last season I took your advices in 2007 ADP report and won the league champ for the first time in 5 years! I plan on using it again (maybe V2) and skip all other scout reports. Thanks for your great work!

    15. on 11 Feb 2008 at 1:03 pm#15ZackPhilly

      Any chance the raw data could be available, I would be interested to review the various drafts that you have input into the spreadsheet. If you can see my e-mail, and can send me that data, I would like that.

      Any thought of standard deviation consideration?

      Thank you.

    16. on 11 Feb 2008 at 4:16 pm#16Bryan

      Hi Kelly,

      Thanks again for this wonderful draft tool. I also used your spreadsheet last year, though I tweaked it a little.

      I’d suggest using median draft position instead of ADP because there is likely to be immense variability between the drafts that you utilize. The median statistic is less affected by extreme outliers than mean.

    17. on 11 Feb 2008 at 4:27 pm#17Ryan

      I won my league last year, and I owe most of it to a dynamite draft I was able to pull off because if a hardcore statistical analysis of THIS report. I was able to pinpoint about 3 players per round that would be available at my pick. This is an amazing tool. I spent some time looking for this website this weekend (I had forgotten where I found it!) and I’m psyched to have stumbled on this. Thank you!

    18. on 12 Feb 2008 at 8:00 am#18winabango

      ZachPhilly - I can send it to you.

      Bryan - tweaking to your preference is the whole idea. I do the Scarcity reports differently depending on my league.

      In all honesty, almost every mock draft is a 5×5 roto style draft. I have also noticed that the first half of the draft does not change all of that much from one draft to another. The places where I notice variations is in the middle rounds where OF and SP are being taken. Once you get up to 20 drafts entered, variations (as much as 10 rounds) do not cause a major fluctuation in ADP.

    19. on 14 Feb 2008 at 12:21 pm#19Jamesllegade

      Thanks again you guys… I think this won my my league last year!

      One question… Carlos Guillen at SS. He still has eligibility there in yahoo. Is his ADP influenced by being a 1b?

    20. on 14 Feb 2008 at 1:30 pm#20winabango

      I do believe that the multiple position eligibility is inflating Guillen’s value. He is aging, and he has aging skills. I do not think he is a top 10 1B player by any means. Nor do I think he is in the top 10 when it comes to shortstops. He seems to be drafted as if he is.

    21. on 25 Feb 2008 at 8:52 am#21Dave

      I found this very helpful in preparing my draft strategy.

    22. on 27 Feb 2008 at 6:29 pm#22heath

      first i would like to say thank you cor this is amazing. my question is in our draft we get to keep players under 3 years for 3 years. how should i adjust you ADP?

    23. on 28 Feb 2008 at 6:04 am#23winabango

      I would go to each position and identify those players that qualify to be kept. Put something like a # after their names. The look at where they are ranked by ADP at their position. Then determine whether or not you would use a pick in a higher round to acquire them. Move them up the Tier rankings according to your preference. It is a lot of work, but that kind of preparation will give you a good start to the year.

    24. on 28 Feb 2008 at 5:26 pm#24Andy

      Great stuff! Will you be posting an updated ADP at all?

    25. on 29 Feb 2008 at 7:47 am#25winabango

      Yes. I am already half way through version 2, and have made a few improvements to it. I am expecting to release it next weekend. I am hoping to have AL and NL only scarcity reports posted this weekend.

    26. on 05 Mar 2008 at 4:58 pm#26kipper

      This is great. Thanks

    27. on 07 Mar 2008 at 10:49 am#27flash613

      Thank you very much again. It is an awesome tool which helped me greatly last year. Of course, I share the link with no one in my league ;-) . Do you know when we can expect version 2? (Last year I spent time tweaking and tailoring v1 — and then version 2 came out.)

    28. on 07 Mar 2008 at 2:26 pm#28The Myth of Position Depth & Scarcity: Second Base | www.fantasygameday.net

      […] Time out for shameless pimping: Check out Kelly’s composite of ADPs and several sites’ projections when creating your spreadsheets. […]

    29. on 11 Mar 2008 at 6:02 pm#29Patrick

      Thanks for the draft summaries. They’re helpful. Can you post a list of all the mock drafts that you used in your report (either in the Instructions or as a post)?

    30. on 14 Mar 2008 at 11:01 pm#30Bill S

      Good job. Question: can the worksheets be configured for by me for only AL or NL ONLY formats (without having to edit out the players from the league you don’t need). Thanks

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